第912章 废行之争
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话没说完,赵孝骞作为围观群众兼裁判及时出来制止:「子由先生,新政司内无大小尊卑,一切拿事实说话,吵架争执可以,不能发火哟。」
苏辙深吸了口气,朝赵孝骞行了一礼,然后愤愤地指了指郑朝宗,以示警告,冷冷道:「你接着说,老夫洗耳恭听!」
郑朝宗显然打算当泰迪当到底了,闻言毫无惧色地道:「下官以为,『青苗法』并非恶政,它的本意是善的。」
「大宋的农户靠天吃饭,但大宋境内每年有天灾,如若遇到天灾,地里没了收成,百姓家破人亡,不得不沦为流民,而流民若是聚集起来,动辄十数万,甚至数十万,对大宋社稷无疑是个极大的威胁。」
「『青苗法』的存在,其实就是为了解决这个威胁,天灾无法避免,但朝廷和官府却可为农户兜底,哪怕地里颗粒无收,官府借给农户粮食,种子和钱财,帮他们度过难关,敢问青苗法何错之有?」
苏辙冷冷道:「可事实是,民间百姓家破人亡者,大多因青苗法而起。」
郑朝宗微笑道:「苏相公,我们现在说的是青苗法本身的善恶,您说的『恶』,其实与青苗法无关,是地方上的官员做的恶,问题不在青苗法上。而在实施它的官员身上。」
苏辙不服气地道:「新政只能通过地方官员来落实,官员假借新政之名,行盘剥百姓之恶事,吏治如此败坏,非一朝一夕能解决,既如此,何不废除青苗法,让地方官员再也无法打着新政的名义做恶。」
郑朝宗叹道:「下官还是那句话,『因噎废食,悖也』。」
「地方官员做恶,朝廷和官家会拿出举措,针对和整顿吏治,尽最大的可能消除地方官员的『恶』,而苏相公,却索性把青苗法一刀斩断,是不是太粗暴了?」
「要知道,若能整顿吏治,朝堂和地方官场清明,『青苗法』能顺利落实下去,每年不知能救多少受灾的百姓农户,而苏相公一番话,却将无数百姓的生路斩断了,下官以为,实为不智。」
苏辙张了张嘴,发现自己竟无言以对。
不得不承认,郑朝宗的这番话很中肯客观,而且思路和逻辑都很清晰,他将问题的源头看得很清楚。
「恶」的源头,不是新政本身,而是落实新政的地方官员,以及各地庞大的官商地主利益勾结的关系网。
一味地废除新政,却无视地方上的利益关系网,无疑是治标不治本的。
就算新政废止了,地方上的官员和商贾地主们想要盘剥百姓,总能想到各种手段和理由,百姓依然身处苦难之中,朝廷根本没有解决问题。
郑朝宗的话,引得殿内许多人缓缓点头。
抛开新党旧党的立场不论,郑朝宗的话没毛病。
赵孝骞望向章惇,道:「子厚先生如何看?」
章惇沉思片刻,道:「臣赞同郑朝宗之见,朝廷要解决的问题,不在新政,而在实施新政的地方官员。」
赵孝骞又望向苏辙,含笑道:「子由先生觉得呢?」
苏辙沉默半晌,才不甘不愿地道:「刚才是臣想得偏差了,确如郑朝宗所言,因噎废食,悖也。」
郑朝宗紧接着朝赵孝骞行了一礼,道:「臣今日方知,官家当初设立监察府,是何等的明智且富有远见。」
「天下事,悉决于官家和朝廷,朝廷任用官员,官员治理百姓,这其中最大的问题,莫过于天高皇帝远,朝廷对地方官员的作为,很难及时察觉。」
「而监察府的设立,便弥补了这个缺陷,天下官员从此有了朝廷的及时监管,或许不能完全杜绝不法,但却能改善太多。」
「地方官员有了顾忌,便不敢肆无忌惮,朝廷也能及时得到地方官员所作所为的反馈,决定任免奖惩。」
郑朝宗加重了语气,似乎不仅为了说给赵孝骞听,也为了说给殿内的宰相们听。
「先肃吏治,再行新政,解决了根源问题,新政如何落实,其实已不算问题,这个顺序无比正确,官家英明!」
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